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Brooke Hoyer's avatar

I read this and had some thoughts. Then I happened on an older piece by Noah Waldeck (Subjectively Objective) about that "New Topographies: show. Some tidbits I found interesting was the Jenkins (the curator) basically invented the term and curated the show based on the photos being "stylistically anonymous" and that the show was widely panned (even hated).

But on to the meatier bits.

One of the things everybody seems to get hung up on is the objectivity of the images. What strikes me is that there is an obvious parallel with memory. Memory is *never* objective and eye-witness reports are usually terrible at establishing facts. Every witness sees the event through the accumulated experiences of their lives and that goes for those New Topographies photographers. Every one of those photographs meant making conscious decisions among many possibilities and those decisions stemmed from the photographers' lived experiences.

I kind of love the fact that Elliot was coming around to the very thesis of "The Intentional Fallacy" (which has to be one of the best titles ever) which claims that once release, the art work exists on it's own, cleaved from its originator; that is has meaning apart from any original intent. I've got thoughts swirling without form regarding that but feel like I'll bring it back around to your comments about Adams and metaphor.

I like the idea of dialectic, where two competing ideas can hold truth simultaneously. You said that people contradict themselves all the time. I rather think that people want to see things objectively but because of basic human nature are incapable. Adams is exactly correct in photography as metaphor -- an ostensibly objective form that is continuously interpreted.

Ian Cowmeadow's avatar

Another really engaging piece of writing - thanks. You have a great way of letting us follow the path of your thoughts as you try to work something out.

For myself, I've always had a nagging doubt about the claims of objectivity proposed by The New Topographics photographers and others. It stems from my feeling that every photograph, even a CCTV security image has an intention behind it that is there before it is made. Most obviously, framing and timing will be the result of a personal process, even if the equipment performs its task with absolute disinterest.

Walker Evans, for example, documented his world but clearly made subjective decisions about what he wanted to put in his dossier. Robert Adams chose where to stand and what to include in his frame and what to leave out. These are not objective actions.

Although none of these people sought metaphor or grand, extrapolated meaning in their images, it was inevitable that, once out in the world, such things would be attached to them.

It's a sort of curse of the medium, that a photograph is expected to have a reason to exist, a reason why the photographer made it. That's probably a legacy of its primary role as a means of communicating information, but it does tend to mean that when people look at a photograph, they want it to mean something and if the photographer hasn't signalled any particular meaning, the viewer will very likely imply their own.

It's certainly a can of worms!

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